Wi-Fi: A Warning Signal
Panorama: WI-FI: A Warning
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A link to the recent BBC Panorama programme about Wi-Fi radiation and health:
http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=2243482823849327978&q=bbc+wifi
Olle Johansson, assoc. prof.
The Experimental Dermatology Unit
Department of Neuroscience Karolinska Institute
171 77 Stockholm
Sweden
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Wi-Fi: A Warning Signal
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/6674675.stm
Informant: Martin
Watch Panorama online
Please email all your MPs, Councillors and school heads and governors to watch Panorama online here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_4120000/newsid_4124500/4124514.stm?bw=bb&mp=rm
or to catch or record the reruns:
Panorama BBC News 24 22 May at 00:30 WiFi: A Warning Signal
Panorama BBC News 24 22 May at 03:30 WiFi: A Warning Signal
Panorama BBC 1 25 May at 00:25 WiFi: A Warning Signal
I have got a Video tape and DVD of the programme if anyone can duplicate.
Now, that the Chair of the HPA has openly challenged the WHO and the government, we need to act quickly to harness this momentum.
Can we all write to our MPs and ask them to push for immediate action?
Andrea
BBC Panorama vote
So far 40,000 people have voted if they think wifi is safe its slightly more don't than do Add your votes!!
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/programmes/panorama/default.stm?dynamic_vote=ON
Sarah
The nay sayers
Do you want to know who the 'scientists' are who are doing the criticising?
Prof Malcolm Sperrin Director of medical physics and clinical engineering, Royal Berkshire NHS Trust. Could not find anything other than this link with the notorious Science Media Centre http://www.sciencemediacentre.org/press_releases/07-05-10_bmjctscans.htm
So, that's where the Guardian and the BBC get their scientists from.
Prof Will J Stewart UCL and University of Southampton http://www.theiet.org/publicaffairs/sectorpanels/communications/stewart.cfm
Member of The Institution of Engineering and Technology, Communication Sector Panel he is also a member of the IEEE Previously chief scientist at Marconi - a large Telecoms firm. Here is a link to some of the staff he was working on at Marconi http://www.iop.org/activity/policy/Events/Seminars/file_3502.doc
Dr Paddy Regan University of Surrey, Guildford Lecturer in nuclear and radiation physics. His expertise is clearly in the ionising part of the spectrum. Why they wheel him out to comment on Wi-Fi is a mystery to me. http://www.ph.surrey.ac.uk/cnrp/profiles/academics?s_id=21
Yes, he is the same Prof David Coggan indeed. He is a member of the Medical Research Council Epidemiology He seems to always be wheeled out when it comes to minimising the potential health effects of any pollutant. Last year it was antimony in plastic water bottles (see here http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/dietfitness.html?in_article_id=379624&in_page_id=1798 A few years back, it was pesticides. He was the Chairman of the Independent Advisory Committee on Pesticides http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1893611.stm current members of this body are listed here http://www.pesticides.gov.uk/acp.asp?id=2060
He was also involved in at least one study financed by the MTHR in a supervisory role http://www.mthr.org.uk/research_projects/mthr_funded_projects/cartwright.htm
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Points of View, Panorama
I did fire out numerous comments yesterday on various sites but from memory I think it was the following:
The Panorama programme was an excellent, truthful expose of the dangers of this harmful technology.
"WiFi emissions are similar to Mobile Phone Mast emissions. They have very similar carrier frequencies and pulsed digital amplitude modulation. The signal strength in a classroom with 15 WiFi enabled laptops will be very similar to the signal strength you would receive from a mobile phone mast 80 to 150 metres away. There is now considerable research associating serious health effects with living near a phone mast. Indeed the ill health and cancer clusters in the vicinity of phone masts are increasing at an ever alarming rate. If living near to mobile phone masts poses a health risk, then why are we actively putting wireless devices in schools that fill the classrooms with similar levels of pulsing microwave radiation"?
John E
An Opinion
As we all know there has been a considerable amount of gerrymandering in respect of the Panorama programme on WiFi in schools transmitted on Monday.
First we had various self-important people being wheeled out of their caves to denigrate the programme before it was aired - Professor Malcolm Sperrin (Director of Medical Physics & Clinical Engineering, Royal Berkshire NHS Trust), Professor Will J Stewart (Royal Academy of Engineering, University of Southampton and previously chief scientist with Marconi), Dr Paddy Regan (Centre for Nuclear Radiation and Physics), Professor David Coggan (Medical Research Council) and Mr Bill Thompson, to name but a few - all less than celebrated individuals but well-known when it comes to denigrating fears about emfs and the effects thereof. Afterwards, the Guardian went into overdrive to present the programme in the worst possible light, the voting system on the BBC's Panorama web page appeared to be mendaciously in favour of those who consider there to be no problem and the corporation's website 'Have Your Say' clearly decided not to accept reasoned comment from honest, and scientifically qualified, people who wrote in questioning WiFi safety. But none of this really matters.
Whatever you might think of him, Professor Sir William Stewart is Chairman of the Health Protection Agency (which, of course, incorporates the Radiological Protection Division). As Chairman of the NRPB, he was responsible for the report by the Independent Expert Group on Mobile Phones (IEGMP) issued in 2000, since known as the 'Stewart Report', and it was on his watch that the Advisory Group on Non-Ionising Radiation (AGNIR) produced a follow-up appraisal issued in January 2005. His comments when interviewed on the programme:
Stewart (on the results of research). "We found firstly that there may be changes in cognitive functions; secondly that there may be cancer induction and, thirdly, some molecular biological changes."
Stewart (when confronted with Sylvia Wilson who is electro-magnetically hypersensitive). "I sympathise with Sylvia because I suspect a problem. We do not know. It might not be worth worrying about. Or (people like her) might by the human canaries of the future".
Interviewer "The World Health Organisation says categorically that there are no adverse health effect from low-level long term exposure. Is that an accurate reflection?"
Stewart "I think they are wrong."
Interviewer "Why do you think it?"
Stewart "It is not an accurate assessment."
The interviewer went to great pains to express incredulity that HM Government should be taking the word of WHO and others against that of its own principle adviser.
It is the part played by Sir William that is the centrepoint of the debate, not the second-class 'scientists' who stand ready to criticise him at the slightest opportunity nor the number of votes registered on the Panorama website nor the nerds who use 'Have Your Say' as little more than a talking shop to expound their illiterate views. All attempts to cloud the issue by introducing peripheral aspects should be fiercely resisted. It is what the Chairman of the HPA has to say, and the decision by HM Government to ignore him, that matters - and this is what we should be shouting from the rooftops.
David
Read Geoff's comment on the Panorama page!!
sarah
http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?threadID=6357&&&edition=1&ttl=20070522194711
Added: Tuesday, 22 May, 2007, 12:56 GMT 13:56
UK Your excellent programme really speaks for itself. Credit must go to your researchers. How anyone viewing could doubt the intergrity of the presentation and the risk to health, is beyond my comprehension. I spoke with an employee of a leading Telecommunication Company this morning and he admitted that his company had, in fact,encouraged employees to vote that the Wi Fi computer system offered no danger to health, as part of the BBC survey. This is typical of the tactics these companies will use to defend their business interests and win public support. Lack of transparency and honesty and a high dependancy on the profit motive is the name of their game.
Geoff Williams, Southport
Re: The nay sayers
Re Prof M Sperrin, 2 of the Science Media Centre's sponsors are the Mobile Operators Association and Vodaphone.
John E
Support Panorama!!!
I urge everyone to go to http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/make_complaint_step1.shtml and select the "send praise" option in support of Panorama.
I have supported the Panorama with the following comment (thanks to others who supplied some of the text!!):-
This excellent programme really speaks for itself. Credit must go to Panorama's researchers, and to Paul Kenyon, the presenter. How anyone viewing could doubt the integrity of the presentation and the risk to health, is beyond my comprehension. The most important fact to come out of this programme is the stance being taken by Professor Sir William Stewart, Chairman of the Health Protection Agency. It is he who states quite categorically that there may well be a problem with WiFi technology and that an immediate review is called for. Whatever the so-called experts (many of whom are sponsored by the Mobile Phone Operators and whom are giving their opinions out of their fields of expertise) might think, Sir William is a past Chairman of the NRPB (National Radiological Protection Board) and his credentials give him the greatest credibility in this debate. Thus, this is a very worthy subject which was covered correctly, and bravely on the part of the Researchers and the Presenter. I wish that more programmes covered this topic since Panorama has just scratched the surface.
Don't waste time - Do it NOW!
Adrian
This was my letter
Sarah
Feedback:
The programme on WiFi was outstanding. It was also very brave of the producers and editor to stick their necks out in the face of such opposition from people who don't 'believe' there is a problem. The fact that children are being exposed to significat levels of microwave radiation all day long in their school without parents consent is nothing short of a scandal. THere are many eminent scientists besides the ones interviewed in the programme who are speaking out againt this technology. The government gain £15 billion pa in tax revenue and are firmly in bed with the industry. We need programmes like this to expose what is going on and bring the scientific evidence to the fore. To quote Dr Neil Cherry, one of the foremost long-term researchers ŒŠ.the ICNIRP guideline exposure level is set many orders of magnitude too high to accomplish this (protection of public health). Š..This (view) has been intransigently maintained in the face of compelling laboratory and epidemiological evidence of adverse health effects that would have had a chemical declared carcinogenic, neuropathogenic, cardiogenic and teratogenic for humans many years ago.
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Submitted to BBC
to: Wi-Fi - A Warning Signal
Thank you! Really capable and professional made.
The scene, when Sir Stuart says, "I think, they are wrong", I'll never forget.
Our pain near base stations and mobile phones is too much...
Now Repacholi says: "I will only say, what science says."
In Geneve (2005 WHO-workshop Base Stations) he said:
( http://www.nirmed.org/Dokumente/WHO_base_stations_report.pdf )
"Evidence is, that fields from Base Stations cannot do anything to the molecules (of biological tissue). The fear that something might happen in the future causes the effect. WHO EMF is exactly telling what science says and will not help to propagate myths." Where is the evidence? There is not one study to substantiate!
See here: "The Lancet: WHO Ignored Evidence in Guidelines"
( http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/5/8/155851.shtml )
But they search and he gave the direction they should take.
So may be, he would mean: "What the science will say, only I say."
That's over now, take a look at
http://userpage.chemie.fu-berlin.de/fb_chemie/ipc/illewww/www/publications.html
"Decomposition of thymidine by low energy electrons. Implications for the molecular mechanisms of single strand breaks in DNA" (VIP Article) S. Ptasinska, S. Denifl, P. Scheier, T.D. Märk, S. Gohlke, E. Illenberger Angew. Ch. Int. Ed. 2006, 45, 1893-1896
Best regards
Helmut Breunig
Germany
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Re: BBC Panorama program on WI-Fi irks industry
Thanks for the Panorama program regarding WiFi. A most excellent documentation about the hazards of equipment sending pulsed wireless radiation.
People can not see, feel or smell the danger, so most think there isn't any. Decades of science show there are serious dangers not only for human but also for animals and plants.
Today we live in a global microwave oven, with expositions no human being had to tolerate before. Official limits are not made to protect people, they just protect one from being cooked in 6 minutes. Even WHO acknowledges those limits aren't made to protect anyone from long term risks like cancer.
Yet, just to save a few bucks in terms of installation officials place WiFi inside schools, near children. Resulting in radiation 3 times higher then in the main beam of a mobile base stations within 100 Meter distance, as measured in your documentation.
Precaution is the first thing to apply as Sir William Stewart pointed out. Next step should be to rethink limits which are plain wrong according to many serious scientists and Sir William Stewart.
Peace
Tom
BBC Panorama program on WI-Fi irks industry
http://www.emfacts.com/weblog/index.php?p=732
More on the aftermath of the Panorama Wi-Fi program
http://www.emfacts.com/weblog/index.php?p=733
Panorama Program can be seen embedded in MS Website
http://www.mastsanity.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=132&Itemid=1
Panorama WiFi transcript
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/6683969.stm
Study questions Wi-Fi effect on children
http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/65574.html
Wi-Fi risks in schools 'must be reviewed'
http://freepage.twoday.net/stories/3749736/
WiFi: A Warning Signal
http://freepage.twoday.net/stories/3730481/
Microwaves are a hazard to life
http://omega.twoday.net/stories/189655/
Microwave–ovens cause cancer after all
http://omega.twoday.net/stories/189666/
Man turns the Earth into a Microwave–Oven
http://omega.twoday.net/stories/189645/
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UK press coverage about BBC1 Panorama (WiFi dangers)
Some Articles what the UK press thought about the most interesting BBC1 panorama WiFi documentation. BBC1 Panorama is the flagship BBC documentation, broadcast at prime time.
The most impressive comment from visitors I saw (The Times):
"Microwave transmitters are being used on the streets of Baghdad to disorientate and disperse crowds - this is known as the Active Denial System [ http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Active+Denial+System&btnG=Google+Search ]. Similar tactics are also in operation in Brighton, England, to break up groups of vagrants on the streets. What other evidence do we require that microwave radiation is harmful? It is already being used as a weapon! Frankie Fox, Neston, UK"
Did anyone got an answer from BBC on his comment about the program? I was surprised to receive what looked like a non automated reply, perhaps they didn't got much positive comments?
It said they had put my reply on their board for program makers and senior management!
The Times, 21.05.07 School wi-fi radiation levels "three times that of phone masts" http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article1816571.ece
The Independent on Sunday Wif-Fi special: http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/health_medical/article2472133.ece http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/health_medical/article2472140.ece http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/health_medical/article2472139.ece http://comment.independent.co.uk/leading_articles/article2472074.ece http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/health_medical/article2472133.ece
Computer Weekly April http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2007/04/27/223493/calls-grow-for-investigation-into-health-effects-of.htm
17 May More Cities to have sity wide Wi-Fi http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2006/05/17/215980/bt-names-wi-fi-cities.htm
The Guardian critique of Panorama (before the programme was aired not after) http://technology.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,2084218,00.html http://education.guardian.co.uk/schools/story/0,,2084525,00.html
Retailers panic over BBC Wi-Fi scare 21.05.07 http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/113614/retailers-panic-over-bbc-wifi-scare.html
Daily Mail 26.05.07 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=456534&in_page_id=1770&in_a_source=
The Telegraph 21.05.07 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/05/21/nwifi21.xml
The Scotsman 21.05.07 http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=785562007
Times Wi-Fi in Schools article 11/06 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2461748,00.html
Times 280407 on Wifi http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/personal_tech/article1718256.ece CBS News on Wi-Fi in schools, April 2007 http://www.cnsnews.com/news/viewstory.asp?Page=/Culture/archive/200704/CUL20070425e.html Daily Mail Wi-Fi Article 300407 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/healthmain.html?in_article_id=449981&in_page_id=1774
Ecologist on Wi-Fi http://www.theecologist.org/news_detail.asp?content_id=893
Norwich Wifi Regional Press http://omega.twoday.net/stories/3650200/
TES Mystery Headaches BECTA Story http://www.tes.co.uk/search/story/?story_id=2363923
Peace
Tom
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Praise for the Panorama Wi-Fi program and a warning for the future
http://www.emfacts.com/weblog/index.php?p=735
Praise for the Panorama Wi-Fi program and a warning for the future
With Sir William Stewart, head of the HPA calling for a review of the Wi-Fi network out of concern for our children, the BBC was right to air this program.
Any sensible and caring parent would want to know that there might be risks and that there is no conclusive scientific research into all this newer technology to date.
I personally thank the BBC for the warning. I need no convincing because I researched pulsed microwave radiation when I became electro hypersensitive without realising what it was in 2003.
It took me 14 months of trial & error and research before I was convinced and I have to say that the trial and error was the most effective. I became so sensitive that I knew when I was in the path of emissions and trial and error was the one thing that was absolutely conclusive every time.
However I have grandchildren with parents who don't want to believe these wonderful gadgets might cause harm to their more vulnerable children. For them and all the children in the world, I cannot praise the BBC and Panorama enough. Our children are the future.
Some of my grandchildren's parents are thinking hard right now.
On another note, as a lover of wildlife, I have to say this newer technology is causing problems, too.
Sandi
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More Panorama effects
----- Original Message -----
From: Eileen O'Connor
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 11:23 PM
Subject: Support for Professor Johansson
I have enclosed an open letter of support for Professor Olle Johansson following the shameful ridicule he has faced following the Panorama programme on Wifi.
BBC News 24 has apparently highlighted news from a Swedish blogger DennisJ who sent news to badscience.net saying that Johansson was the 2004 recipient of the Misleader of the Year award. I would like to know who voted for this award and who funds them.
Read the following quote from Dr Ian Gibson MP taken from Panorama:
‘Panorama -How seriously do you think the government is taking the precautionary approach right now, with respect to wi-fi?’
‘Dr IAN GIBSON MP Norwich North Oh, I don't think there's any doubt about it, they're not at all. wi-fi are just being rolled out as great big white heat of technology. Industry rules in this area and the precautionary principle and the safety of people who might benefit to some extent from the technology are completely dismissed. It's just it's Wild West country for the companies. They just put them where they want and say there's no evidence. Now, you know, five, ten years from now, as the evidence grows, there's enough now to be worried about it, but as the evidence grows, who knows what it might show? It might show that it's completely unsafe for certain groups of people.’
Professor Johansson’s important research is obviously causing problems for the government and industry with regards to wireless communication, mobile phones, phone masts, wifi etc. As you can see in the quote from Dr Ian Gibson MP there is a lack of political will as wireless communication is a huge money making machine for government, you know what the say ‘the best form of defence is attack’; we are up against the powerful forces of industry and government and we should defend the very people who are trying to protect public health as Johansson continues to expose the truth through his research.
Professor Olle Johansson continues to work against all odds to expose what I and many people including many doctors and scientists throughout the world now believe is one of the greatest threats to mankind in the 21st century. His work into the effects of low level, EMF/EMR (electromagnetic field/electromagnetic radiation) has lead the way and added strength to the campaign as we have been able to use over 450 pieces of published research produced by Olle Johansson.
The following quote is taken from an article written by UK journalist Kate Figes; she has written about her own sensitivity to wireless technology, this was reported in many UK national news papers. She has also faced ridicule from people who refuse to accept this problem is real.
“The government and the telecoms industry sit happily in each other's pockets and we have no say, no way to stem the tide or voice objection. It is left to a handful of scientists, such as Dr Johansson from the Karolinska Institute in Sweden who has found skin changes under the effects of low-level microwave exposure to fight for finance for his important research. Without any sense that we have a political party or government prepared to take this issue seriously, ordinary people have no choice but to become activists - campaigning against mobile phone masts that have been erected without planning permission in the heart of their communities and lobbying schools not to install Wi-Fi near where their children are supposed to be able to learn.”
Please read the enclosed interview with Professor Olle Johansson on "Mystery in Skin" http://www.feb.se/ARTICLES/OlleJ.html
It details many of Professor Johansson’s research papers and he also talks about the difficulties he faces. The BBC and news items that have published the ridicule from Swedish blogger DennisJ on badscience.net should be ashamed for reporting such rubbish against one of the greatest scientists on the planet; Olle Johansson will be remembered in history for alerting us through his research about electromagnetic fields and the dangers to public health. This man should be awarded the highest honours the world can give including major funding to continue this important research. He should not be ridiculed and starved of funds; for the sake of us all, especially our children the world needs his important work to continue.
The following quote was taken from the Mystery in the Skin interview:
“Mr. Helge Tiainen, former head of the Nokia Consumer Electronics in Sweden, in February 23, 1994, said that "The results of Olle Johansson's research could very well deeply shake the world's electronics industry, but mankind still has to know!"
Eileen O’Connor
Trustee – EM Radiation Research Trust
http://www.radiationresearch.org
Informant: Iris Atzmon
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Please read support for Professor Olle Johansson from Dr George Carlo.
Eileen O’Connor
Trustee – EM Radiation Research Trust
Earlier today, I was appalled to read a blog site launching vicious personal attacks on Professor Olle Johansson of the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm deriving from a well-done news report by the BBC's Panorama program. It is especially distasteful because the work of Professor Johansson and the Panorama group that garnered the unwarranted criticisms was aimed at protecting children from the dangers of WiFi in schools. We have come to a very sad state of affairs where pressures from the mobile phone industry can be used to turn saving the lives of children into a perceived vice.
Professon Olle Johansson is truly a uniquely courageous scientist who for years has put the protection of public health above his own personal and professional reputation. His scientific work is honest and impeccable, published in the open, peer-reviewed literature and cited by myself and others in the field of EMR protection as definitive reference. Indeed, many of us in the field have had discussions where Professor Johansson's name has been raised in the context of nomination for a Nobel Prize. In reality, the people leveling these fraudulent and slanderous attacks on the reputation of Professor Johansson do not even warrant mention on the same page with him. Were it not for the fact that unsubstantiated criticism makes it instantaneously around the world via the Internet, even responding to such silliness would be unnecessary. It is the irony of ironies.
The measure of the man is reflected in how he is viewed by those professional colleagues who know him best. Professor Johansson is one of my personal heroes and I am proud to call him a friend. To be sure, the world owes a debt of gratitude to him.
The power of his work and message underscores why he is a major threat to those who stand to profit from the dangerous practices that he opposes. It is therefore important to make this context public. His message is far too important to be muted by the influence of vested interests.
Dr. George L. Carlo
Science and Public Policy Institute
1101 Pennsylvania Ave. NW -- 7th Floor Washington, D.C. 20004 http://www.sppionline.org
202-756-7744
Informant: Sandi
Dr. Carlo Offers Support Against Vicious Web Attacks on Professor Olle Johansson
These are typical tactics of the Cell Phone Industry's Bull Dogs to attack and attempt to discredit anyone who tries to warn us of the extreme dangers posed by this technology. I have seen the same kind of websites attacking and trying to discredit other researchers who try to tell us the truth about these dangers. Why? Because their words threaten a multi-billion dollar industry that cares more about profits and keeping people unconscious than it does about the fact that this technology is indeed making people sick and destroying people's lives.
Very typical and very unconscious. Unfortunately, the unconscious at the bottom of the food chain support - and even in many cases admire - the unconscious at the top of the food chain.
peace
paul
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Support for Olle Johansson
Assoc. Prof. Olle Johansson is a spokesperson "for the people" at great sacrifice, considerable stress and suffering as well as threats to his livelihood. He interacts with concerned persons around-the-world -- compassionately and selflessly offering support and advice re adverse health effects of toxic electromagnetic radiation -- often referred to as "ES/EHS" (electrosensitivity/electrohypersensitivity).
A man who would point fingers at such an "honorable, deserving person" for any reason at all, is one not to be trusted...... . Ridiculous challenges by "skeptics" -- the desperation exhibited only by the "most insecure," will do nothing to stop a courageous man from "following his heart.....!!!!" Prayers "for the children" and a better world - Joanne
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"When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest!" - Author Unknown
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Panorama debate online
Noticed this on the Panorama debate site I wonder who this person is?!
Sarah
http://tinyurl.com/268oq8
Added: Tuesday, 22 May, 2007, 11:49 GMT 12:49 UK
It is surprising that there are so many people choosing to ignore the potential risks. I was a senior manager, in charge of the radio network, for a large wireless operator (some where in Europe) and was presented with such overwhelming evidence of biological effects, such as 100% correlation between base stations being powered (during commissioning) and epileptic fits from people near the masts. The company set up a committee, of which I was a member, to discredit the evidence and make sure it never reached the public domain. I'm worried about wifi, we all should be !
Anon, Europe
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Letter of support for Olle Johansson
http://www.emfacts.com/weblog/index.php?p=738
The Radiation Blob, Indeed
http://omega.twoday.net/stories/3796260/
Wireless Electro-Sensitivity: a physicist with ES replies to NewsWireless
http://www.newswireless.net/index.cfm/article/3434
http://freepage.twoday.net/search?q=Wi-Fi
http://omega.twoday.net/search?q=Wi-Fi
http://omega.twoday.net/search?q=Goldsworthy
http://omega.twoday.net/search?q=Johansson
http://omega.twoday.net/search?q=Carlo
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[ http://omega.twoday.net/stories/3754101/ ]
A link to the recent BBC Panorama programme about Wi-Fi radiation and health:
http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=2243482823849327978&q=bbc+wifi
Olle Johansson, assoc. prof.
The Experimental Dermatology Unit
Department of Neuroscience Karolinska Institute
171 77 Stockholm
Sweden
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Wi-Fi: A Warning Signal
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/6674675.stm
Informant: Martin
Watch Panorama online
Please email all your MPs, Councillors and school heads and governors to watch Panorama online here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_4120000/newsid_4124500/4124514.stm?bw=bb&mp=rm
or to catch or record the reruns:
Panorama BBC News 24 22 May at 00:30 WiFi: A Warning Signal
Panorama BBC News 24 22 May at 03:30 WiFi: A Warning Signal
Panorama BBC 1 25 May at 00:25 WiFi: A Warning Signal
I have got a Video tape and DVD of the programme if anyone can duplicate.
Now, that the Chair of the HPA has openly challenged the WHO and the government, we need to act quickly to harness this momentum.
Can we all write to our MPs and ask them to push for immediate action?
Andrea
BBC Panorama vote
So far 40,000 people have voted if they think wifi is safe its slightly more don't than do Add your votes!!
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/programmes/panorama/default.stm?dynamic_vote=ON
Sarah
The nay sayers
Do you want to know who the 'scientists' are who are doing the criticising?
Prof Malcolm Sperrin Director of medical physics and clinical engineering, Royal Berkshire NHS Trust. Could not find anything other than this link with the notorious Science Media Centre http://www.sciencemediacentre.org/press_releases/07-05-10_bmjctscans.htm
So, that's where the Guardian and the BBC get their scientists from.
Prof Will J Stewart UCL and University of Southampton http://www.theiet.org/publicaffairs/sectorpanels/communications/stewart.cfm
Member of The Institution of Engineering and Technology, Communication Sector Panel he is also a member of the IEEE Previously chief scientist at Marconi - a large Telecoms firm. Here is a link to some of the staff he was working on at Marconi http://www.iop.org/activity/policy/Events/Seminars/file_3502.doc
Dr Paddy Regan University of Surrey, Guildford Lecturer in nuclear and radiation physics. His expertise is clearly in the ionising part of the spectrum. Why they wheel him out to comment on Wi-Fi is a mystery to me. http://www.ph.surrey.ac.uk/cnrp/profiles/academics?s_id=21
Yes, he is the same Prof David Coggan indeed. He is a member of the Medical Research Council Epidemiology He seems to always be wheeled out when it comes to minimising the potential health effects of any pollutant. Last year it was antimony in plastic water bottles (see here http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/dietfitness.html?in_article_id=379624&in_page_id=1798 A few years back, it was pesticides. He was the Chairman of the Independent Advisory Committee on Pesticides http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1893611.stm current members of this body are listed here http://www.pesticides.gov.uk/acp.asp?id=2060
He was also involved in at least one study financed by the MTHR in a supervisory role http://www.mthr.org.uk/research_projects/mthr_funded_projects/cartwright.htm
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Points of View, Panorama
I did fire out numerous comments yesterday on various sites but from memory I think it was the following:
The Panorama programme was an excellent, truthful expose of the dangers of this harmful technology.
"WiFi emissions are similar to Mobile Phone Mast emissions. They have very similar carrier frequencies and pulsed digital amplitude modulation. The signal strength in a classroom with 15 WiFi enabled laptops will be very similar to the signal strength you would receive from a mobile phone mast 80 to 150 metres away. There is now considerable research associating serious health effects with living near a phone mast. Indeed the ill health and cancer clusters in the vicinity of phone masts are increasing at an ever alarming rate. If living near to mobile phone masts poses a health risk, then why are we actively putting wireless devices in schools that fill the classrooms with similar levels of pulsing microwave radiation"?
John E
An Opinion
As we all know there has been a considerable amount of gerrymandering in respect of the Panorama programme on WiFi in schools transmitted on Monday.
First we had various self-important people being wheeled out of their caves to denigrate the programme before it was aired - Professor Malcolm Sperrin (Director of Medical Physics & Clinical Engineering, Royal Berkshire NHS Trust), Professor Will J Stewart (Royal Academy of Engineering, University of Southampton and previously chief scientist with Marconi), Dr Paddy Regan (Centre for Nuclear Radiation and Physics), Professor David Coggan (Medical Research Council) and Mr Bill Thompson, to name but a few - all less than celebrated individuals but well-known when it comes to denigrating fears about emfs and the effects thereof. Afterwards, the Guardian went into overdrive to present the programme in the worst possible light, the voting system on the BBC's Panorama web page appeared to be mendaciously in favour of those who consider there to be no problem and the corporation's website 'Have Your Say' clearly decided not to accept reasoned comment from honest, and scientifically qualified, people who wrote in questioning WiFi safety. But none of this really matters.
Whatever you might think of him, Professor Sir William Stewart is Chairman of the Health Protection Agency (which, of course, incorporates the Radiological Protection Division). As Chairman of the NRPB, he was responsible for the report by the Independent Expert Group on Mobile Phones (IEGMP) issued in 2000, since known as the 'Stewart Report', and it was on his watch that the Advisory Group on Non-Ionising Radiation (AGNIR) produced a follow-up appraisal issued in January 2005. His comments when interviewed on the programme:
Stewart (on the results of research). "We found firstly that there may be changes in cognitive functions; secondly that there may be cancer induction and, thirdly, some molecular biological changes."
Stewart (when confronted with Sylvia Wilson who is electro-magnetically hypersensitive). "I sympathise with Sylvia because I suspect a problem. We do not know. It might not be worth worrying about. Or (people like her) might by the human canaries of the future".
Interviewer "The World Health Organisation says categorically that there are no adverse health effect from low-level long term exposure. Is that an accurate reflection?"
Stewart "I think they are wrong."
Interviewer "Why do you think it?"
Stewart "It is not an accurate assessment."
The interviewer went to great pains to express incredulity that HM Government should be taking the word of WHO and others against that of its own principle adviser.
It is the part played by Sir William that is the centrepoint of the debate, not the second-class 'scientists' who stand ready to criticise him at the slightest opportunity nor the number of votes registered on the Panorama website nor the nerds who use 'Have Your Say' as little more than a talking shop to expound their illiterate views. All attempts to cloud the issue by introducing peripheral aspects should be fiercely resisted. It is what the Chairman of the HPA has to say, and the decision by HM Government to ignore him, that matters - and this is what we should be shouting from the rooftops.
David
Read Geoff's comment on the Panorama page!!
sarah
http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?threadID=6357&&&edition=1&ttl=20070522194711
Added: Tuesday, 22 May, 2007, 12:56 GMT 13:56
UK Your excellent programme really speaks for itself. Credit must go to your researchers. How anyone viewing could doubt the intergrity of the presentation and the risk to health, is beyond my comprehension. I spoke with an employee of a leading Telecommunication Company this morning and he admitted that his company had, in fact,encouraged employees to vote that the Wi Fi computer system offered no danger to health, as part of the BBC survey. This is typical of the tactics these companies will use to defend their business interests and win public support. Lack of transparency and honesty and a high dependancy on the profit motive is the name of their game.
Geoff Williams, Southport
Re: The nay sayers
Re Prof M Sperrin, 2 of the Science Media Centre's sponsors are the Mobile Operators Association and Vodaphone.
John E
Support Panorama!!!
I urge everyone to go to http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/make_complaint_step1.shtml and select the "send praise" option in support of Panorama.
I have supported the Panorama with the following comment (thanks to others who supplied some of the text!!):-
This excellent programme really speaks for itself. Credit must go to Panorama's researchers, and to Paul Kenyon, the presenter. How anyone viewing could doubt the integrity of the presentation and the risk to health, is beyond my comprehension. The most important fact to come out of this programme is the stance being taken by Professor Sir William Stewart, Chairman of the Health Protection Agency. It is he who states quite categorically that there may well be a problem with WiFi technology and that an immediate review is called for. Whatever the so-called experts (many of whom are sponsored by the Mobile Phone Operators and whom are giving their opinions out of their fields of expertise) might think, Sir William is a past Chairman of the NRPB (National Radiological Protection Board) and his credentials give him the greatest credibility in this debate. Thus, this is a very worthy subject which was covered correctly, and bravely on the part of the Researchers and the Presenter. I wish that more programmes covered this topic since Panorama has just scratched the surface.
Don't waste time - Do it NOW!
Adrian
This was my letter
Sarah
Feedback:
The programme on WiFi was outstanding. It was also very brave of the producers and editor to stick their necks out in the face of such opposition from people who don't 'believe' there is a problem. The fact that children are being exposed to significat levels of microwave radiation all day long in their school without parents consent is nothing short of a scandal. THere are many eminent scientists besides the ones interviewed in the programme who are speaking out againt this technology. The government gain £15 billion pa in tax revenue and are firmly in bed with the industry. We need programmes like this to expose what is going on and bring the scientific evidence to the fore. To quote Dr Neil Cherry, one of the foremost long-term researchers ŒŠ.the ICNIRP guideline exposure level is set many orders of magnitude too high to accomplish this (protection of public health). Š..This (view) has been intransigently maintained in the face of compelling laboratory and epidemiological evidence of adverse health effects that would have had a chemical declared carcinogenic, neuropathogenic, cardiogenic and teratogenic for humans many years ago.
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Submitted to BBC
to: Wi-Fi - A Warning Signal
Thank you! Really capable and professional made.
The scene, when Sir Stuart says, "I think, they are wrong", I'll never forget.
Our pain near base stations and mobile phones is too much...
Now Repacholi says: "I will only say, what science says."
In Geneve (2005 WHO-workshop Base Stations) he said:
( http://www.nirmed.org/Dokumente/WHO_base_stations_report.pdf )
"Evidence is, that fields from Base Stations cannot do anything to the molecules (of biological tissue). The fear that something might happen in the future causes the effect. WHO EMF is exactly telling what science says and will not help to propagate myths." Where is the evidence? There is not one study to substantiate!
See here: "The Lancet: WHO Ignored Evidence in Guidelines"
( http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/5/8/155851.shtml )
But they search and he gave the direction they should take.
So may be, he would mean: "What the science will say, only I say."
That's over now, take a look at
http://userpage.chemie.fu-berlin.de/fb_chemie/ipc/illewww/www/publications.html
"Decomposition of thymidine by low energy electrons. Implications for the molecular mechanisms of single strand breaks in DNA" (VIP Article) S. Ptasinska, S. Denifl, P. Scheier, T.D. Märk, S. Gohlke, E. Illenberger Angew. Ch. Int. Ed. 2006, 45, 1893-1896
Best regards
Helmut Breunig
Germany
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Re: BBC Panorama program on WI-Fi irks industry
Thanks for the Panorama program regarding WiFi. A most excellent documentation about the hazards of equipment sending pulsed wireless radiation.
People can not see, feel or smell the danger, so most think there isn't any. Decades of science show there are serious dangers not only for human but also for animals and plants.
Today we live in a global microwave oven, with expositions no human being had to tolerate before. Official limits are not made to protect people, they just protect one from being cooked in 6 minutes. Even WHO acknowledges those limits aren't made to protect anyone from long term risks like cancer.
Yet, just to save a few bucks in terms of installation officials place WiFi inside schools, near children. Resulting in radiation 3 times higher then in the main beam of a mobile base stations within 100 Meter distance, as measured in your documentation.
Precaution is the first thing to apply as Sir William Stewart pointed out. Next step should be to rethink limits which are plain wrong according to many serious scientists and Sir William Stewart.
Peace
Tom
BBC Panorama program on WI-Fi irks industry
http://www.emfacts.com/weblog/index.php?p=732
More on the aftermath of the Panorama Wi-Fi program
http://www.emfacts.com/weblog/index.php?p=733
Panorama Program can be seen embedded in MS Website
http://www.mastsanity.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=132&Itemid=1
Panorama WiFi transcript
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/6683969.stm
Study questions Wi-Fi effect on children
http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/65574.html
Wi-Fi risks in schools 'must be reviewed'
http://freepage.twoday.net/stories/3749736/
WiFi: A Warning Signal
http://freepage.twoday.net/stories/3730481/
Microwaves are a hazard to life
http://omega.twoday.net/stories/189655/
Microwave–ovens cause cancer after all
http://omega.twoday.net/stories/189666/
Man turns the Earth into a Microwave–Oven
http://omega.twoday.net/stories/189645/
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UK press coverage about BBC1 Panorama (WiFi dangers)
Some Articles what the UK press thought about the most interesting BBC1 panorama WiFi documentation. BBC1 Panorama is the flagship BBC documentation, broadcast at prime time.
The most impressive comment from visitors I saw (The Times):
"Microwave transmitters are being used on the streets of Baghdad to disorientate and disperse crowds - this is known as the Active Denial System [ http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Active+Denial+System&btnG=Google+Search ]. Similar tactics are also in operation in Brighton, England, to break up groups of vagrants on the streets. What other evidence do we require that microwave radiation is harmful? It is already being used as a weapon! Frankie Fox, Neston, UK"
Did anyone got an answer from BBC on his comment about the program? I was surprised to receive what looked like a non automated reply, perhaps they didn't got much positive comments?
It said they had put my reply on their board for program makers and senior management!
The Times, 21.05.07 School wi-fi radiation levels "three times that of phone masts" http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article1816571.ece
The Independent on Sunday Wif-Fi special: http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/health_medical/article2472133.ece http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/health_medical/article2472140.ece http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/health_medical/article2472139.ece http://comment.independent.co.uk/leading_articles/article2472074.ece http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/health_medical/article2472133.ece
Computer Weekly April http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2007/04/27/223493/calls-grow-for-investigation-into-health-effects-of.htm
17 May More Cities to have sity wide Wi-Fi http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/2006/05/17/215980/bt-names-wi-fi-cities.htm
The Guardian critique of Panorama (before the programme was aired not after) http://technology.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,,2084218,00.html http://education.guardian.co.uk/schools/story/0,,2084525,00.html
Retailers panic over BBC Wi-Fi scare 21.05.07 http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/113614/retailers-panic-over-bbc-wifi-scare.html
Daily Mail 26.05.07 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=456534&in_page_id=1770&in_a_source=
The Telegraph 21.05.07 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/05/21/nwifi21.xml
The Scotsman 21.05.07 http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=785562007
Times Wi-Fi in Schools article 11/06 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2461748,00.html
Times 280407 on Wifi http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/personal_tech/article1718256.ece CBS News on Wi-Fi in schools, April 2007 http://www.cnsnews.com/news/viewstory.asp?Page=/Culture/archive/200704/CUL20070425e.html Daily Mail Wi-Fi Article 300407 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/healthmain.html?in_article_id=449981&in_page_id=1774
Ecologist on Wi-Fi http://www.theecologist.org/news_detail.asp?content_id=893
Norwich Wifi Regional Press http://omega.twoday.net/stories/3650200/
TES Mystery Headaches BECTA Story http://www.tes.co.uk/search/story/?story_id=2363923
Peace
Tom
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Praise for the Panorama Wi-Fi program and a warning for the future
http://www.emfacts.com/weblog/index.php?p=735
Praise for the Panorama Wi-Fi program and a warning for the future
With Sir William Stewart, head of the HPA calling for a review of the Wi-Fi network out of concern for our children, the BBC was right to air this program.
Any sensible and caring parent would want to know that there might be risks and that there is no conclusive scientific research into all this newer technology to date.
I personally thank the BBC for the warning. I need no convincing because I researched pulsed microwave radiation when I became electro hypersensitive without realising what it was in 2003.
It took me 14 months of trial & error and research before I was convinced and I have to say that the trial and error was the most effective. I became so sensitive that I knew when I was in the path of emissions and trial and error was the one thing that was absolutely conclusive every time.
However I have grandchildren with parents who don't want to believe these wonderful gadgets might cause harm to their more vulnerable children. For them and all the children in the world, I cannot praise the BBC and Panorama enough. Our children are the future.
Some of my grandchildren's parents are thinking hard right now.
On another note, as a lover of wildlife, I have to say this newer technology is causing problems, too.
Sandi
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More Panorama effects
----- Original Message -----
From: Eileen O'Connor
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 11:23 PM
Subject: Support for Professor Johansson
I have enclosed an open letter of support for Professor Olle Johansson following the shameful ridicule he has faced following the Panorama programme on Wifi.
BBC News 24 has apparently highlighted news from a Swedish blogger DennisJ who sent news to badscience.net saying that Johansson was the 2004 recipient of the Misleader of the Year award. I would like to know who voted for this award and who funds them.
Read the following quote from Dr Ian Gibson MP taken from Panorama:
‘Panorama -How seriously do you think the government is taking the precautionary approach right now, with respect to wi-fi?’
‘Dr IAN GIBSON MP Norwich North Oh, I don't think there's any doubt about it, they're not at all. wi-fi are just being rolled out as great big white heat of technology. Industry rules in this area and the precautionary principle and the safety of people who might benefit to some extent from the technology are completely dismissed. It's just it's Wild West country for the companies. They just put them where they want and say there's no evidence. Now, you know, five, ten years from now, as the evidence grows, there's enough now to be worried about it, but as the evidence grows, who knows what it might show? It might show that it's completely unsafe for certain groups of people.’
Professor Johansson’s important research is obviously causing problems for the government and industry with regards to wireless communication, mobile phones, phone masts, wifi etc. As you can see in the quote from Dr Ian Gibson MP there is a lack of political will as wireless communication is a huge money making machine for government, you know what the say ‘the best form of defence is attack’; we are up against the powerful forces of industry and government and we should defend the very people who are trying to protect public health as Johansson continues to expose the truth through his research.
Professor Olle Johansson continues to work against all odds to expose what I and many people including many doctors and scientists throughout the world now believe is one of the greatest threats to mankind in the 21st century. His work into the effects of low level, EMF/EMR (electromagnetic field/electromagnetic radiation) has lead the way and added strength to the campaign as we have been able to use over 450 pieces of published research produced by Olle Johansson.
The following quote is taken from an article written by UK journalist Kate Figes; she has written about her own sensitivity to wireless technology, this was reported in many UK national news papers. She has also faced ridicule from people who refuse to accept this problem is real.
“The government and the telecoms industry sit happily in each other's pockets and we have no say, no way to stem the tide or voice objection. It is left to a handful of scientists, such as Dr Johansson from the Karolinska Institute in Sweden who has found skin changes under the effects of low-level microwave exposure to fight for finance for his important research. Without any sense that we have a political party or government prepared to take this issue seriously, ordinary people have no choice but to become activists - campaigning against mobile phone masts that have been erected without planning permission in the heart of their communities and lobbying schools not to install Wi-Fi near where their children are supposed to be able to learn.”
Please read the enclosed interview with Professor Olle Johansson on "Mystery in Skin" http://www.feb.se/ARTICLES/OlleJ.html
It details many of Professor Johansson’s research papers and he also talks about the difficulties he faces. The BBC and news items that have published the ridicule from Swedish blogger DennisJ on badscience.net should be ashamed for reporting such rubbish against one of the greatest scientists on the planet; Olle Johansson will be remembered in history for alerting us through his research about electromagnetic fields and the dangers to public health. This man should be awarded the highest honours the world can give including major funding to continue this important research. He should not be ridiculed and starved of funds; for the sake of us all, especially our children the world needs his important work to continue.
The following quote was taken from the Mystery in the Skin interview:
“Mr. Helge Tiainen, former head of the Nokia Consumer Electronics in Sweden, in February 23, 1994, said that "The results of Olle Johansson's research could very well deeply shake the world's electronics industry, but mankind still has to know!"
Eileen O’Connor
Trustee – EM Radiation Research Trust
http://www.radiationresearch.org
Informant: Iris Atzmon
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Please read support for Professor Olle Johansson from Dr George Carlo.
Eileen O’Connor
Trustee – EM Radiation Research Trust
Earlier today, I was appalled to read a blog site launching vicious personal attacks on Professor Olle Johansson of the Karolinska Institute in Stockholm deriving from a well-done news report by the BBC's Panorama program. It is especially distasteful because the work of Professor Johansson and the Panorama group that garnered the unwarranted criticisms was aimed at protecting children from the dangers of WiFi in schools. We have come to a very sad state of affairs where pressures from the mobile phone industry can be used to turn saving the lives of children into a perceived vice.
Professon Olle Johansson is truly a uniquely courageous scientist who for years has put the protection of public health above his own personal and professional reputation. His scientific work is honest and impeccable, published in the open, peer-reviewed literature and cited by myself and others in the field of EMR protection as definitive reference. Indeed, many of us in the field have had discussions where Professor Johansson's name has been raised in the context of nomination for a Nobel Prize. In reality, the people leveling these fraudulent and slanderous attacks on the reputation of Professor Johansson do not even warrant mention on the same page with him. Were it not for the fact that unsubstantiated criticism makes it instantaneously around the world via the Internet, even responding to such silliness would be unnecessary. It is the irony of ironies.
The measure of the man is reflected in how he is viewed by those professional colleagues who know him best. Professor Johansson is one of my personal heroes and I am proud to call him a friend. To be sure, the world owes a debt of gratitude to him.
The power of his work and message underscores why he is a major threat to those who stand to profit from the dangerous practices that he opposes. It is therefore important to make this context public. His message is far too important to be muted by the influence of vested interests.
Dr. George L. Carlo
Science and Public Policy Institute
1101 Pennsylvania Ave. NW -- 7th Floor Washington, D.C. 20004 http://www.sppionline.org
202-756-7744
Informant: Sandi
Dr. Carlo Offers Support Against Vicious Web Attacks on Professor Olle Johansson
These are typical tactics of the Cell Phone Industry's Bull Dogs to attack and attempt to discredit anyone who tries to warn us of the extreme dangers posed by this technology. I have seen the same kind of websites attacking and trying to discredit other researchers who try to tell us the truth about these dangers. Why? Because their words threaten a multi-billion dollar industry that cares more about profits and keeping people unconscious than it does about the fact that this technology is indeed making people sick and destroying people's lives.
Very typical and very unconscious. Unfortunately, the unconscious at the bottom of the food chain support - and even in many cases admire - the unconscious at the top of the food chain.
peace
paul
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Support for Olle Johansson
Assoc. Prof. Olle Johansson is a spokesperson "for the people" at great sacrifice, considerable stress and suffering as well as threats to his livelihood. He interacts with concerned persons around-the-world -- compassionately and selflessly offering support and advice re adverse health effects of toxic electromagnetic radiation -- often referred to as "ES/EHS" (electrosensitivity/electrohypersensitivity).
A man who would point fingers at such an "honorable, deserving person" for any reason at all, is one not to be trusted...... . Ridiculous challenges by "skeptics" -- the desperation exhibited only by the "most insecure," will do nothing to stop a courageous man from "following his heart.....!!!!" Prayers "for the children" and a better world - Joanne
Joanne C. Mueller Guinea Pigs R Us
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All truth goes through three stages: first it is ridiculed: then it is violently opposed: finally it is accepted as self evident. - Schopenhauer
"When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest!" - Author Unknown
"Life's most persistent and urgent question is: What are you doing for others?..." Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
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Panorama debate online
Noticed this on the Panorama debate site I wonder who this person is?!
Sarah
http://tinyurl.com/268oq8
Added: Tuesday, 22 May, 2007, 11:49 GMT 12:49 UK
It is surprising that there are so many people choosing to ignore the potential risks. I was a senior manager, in charge of the radio network, for a large wireless operator (some where in Europe) and was presented with such overwhelming evidence of biological effects, such as 100% correlation between base stations being powered (during commissioning) and epileptic fits from people near the masts. The company set up a committee, of which I was a member, to discredit the evidence and make sure it never reached the public domain. I'm worried about wifi, we all should be !
Anon, Europe
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Letter of support for Olle Johansson
http://www.emfacts.com/weblog/index.php?p=738
The Radiation Blob, Indeed
http://omega.twoday.net/stories/3796260/
Wireless Electro-Sensitivity: a physicist with ES replies to NewsWireless
http://www.newswireless.net/index.cfm/article/3434
http://freepage.twoday.net/search?q=Wi-Fi
http://omega.twoday.net/search?q=Wi-Fi
http://omega.twoday.net/search?q=Goldsworthy
http://omega.twoday.net/search?q=Johansson
http://omega.twoday.net/search?q=Carlo
http://omega.twoday.net/search?q=electrosensitivity
http://omega.twoday.net/search?q=Panorama
rudkla - 21. Mai, 10:45
